# Websites blocking Tor traffic
**URL:** https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874
**Category:** Tor Browser Desktop
**Tags:** anti-censorship
**Created:** [November 18, 2024, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874 "2024-11-18T12:18:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@qumix](https://forum.torproject.org/u/qumix)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2024, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/1 "2024-11-18T12:18:30Z")
Hello everyone! I love Tor and how it works because it’s completely free and really fast. I use Tor 24/7 to avoid censorship since a lot of sites and services are blocked in my country. Tor is great, but there is one major problem with it. Many sites block tor connection, sometimes I see “Access denied” message. I assume it happens since exit node is not encrypted, so sites can easily see my tor traffic. I can use VPN or proxy after connecting to tor, but it sucks because of really slow speed of free VPN and proxy. Make an encryption after exit node - is it real to implement? It would be really perfect if sites thought you were sitting without tor. If it breaks the anonymity of tor, then this function can be optional. I don’t want to pay for vpn or vps, I don’t want to pay for my freedom. I’m ready to help tor as much as it possible, if needed
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### Author:  [@BobbyB](https://forum.torproject.org/u/BobbyB)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/2 "2024-11-18T17:53:34Z")
Some sites block Tor traffic (or VPN traffic) because of abuse from certain IPs and your exit node just happened to get that IP. Some sites don’t allow Tor period. The IRS is one and some banks also.
The exit node encryption depends on you. If the target site is http only then traffic is unencrypted to that site.
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### Author:  [@qumix](https://forum.torproject.org/u/qumix)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/3 "2024-11-18T21:09:09Z")
Thank you for your reply! The problem is some sites block the entire tor traffic ([nvidia.com](http://nvidia.com), [patreon.com](http://patreon.com), etc), so it doesn’t depend on what your exit node IP. Therefore I have a question: is it possible to hide your tor usage from sites? Sorry if I was not so clear at my post, but it’s a bit difficult to explain. Something like bridges - you use them to hide tor usage from your ISP, but at the end of tor circuit - to hide tor usage from websites. As I said earlier, VPNs help to hide tor usage, but they really slow down your internet and it doesn’t make sense because I use tor not to use vpn anymore
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### Author:  [@BobbyB](https://forum.torproject.org/u/BobbyB)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/4 "2024-11-19T01:16:55Z")
> [@qumix](#):
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> so it doesn’t depend on what your exit node IP
But it does. Right now I am here using Tor and my IP is 185.195.71.6 (CH) and tried Patreon.
There is no choice about an exit node looking like this if you use Tor. When using a VPN they would see the “_exit node_” of the VPN even if you enter the VPN via Tor.
Using an IP service like they must here is what my IP looks like from _ipqualityscore_:
host":“185.195.71.6”,“proxy”:true,“vpn”: **true,“tor”** :true,“active\_vpn”:false," **active\_tor":true** ,“recent\_abuse”:true,“bot\_status”:true
And as you can see they would see abuse status and bot status.
Some do not differentiate between VPN and Tor and say VPN for both.
The whole catch about “free” VPN is that you get pissed off about the speed then they offer you the paid version. There is no free lunch.
> [@qumix](#):
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> I don’t want to pay for my freedom
No one said freedom was free.
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### Author:  [@Noino](https://forum.torproject.org/u/Noino)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/5 "2024-11-19T01:17:38Z")
@qumix
It is not possible\* to hide Tor usage from websites you visit. Tor publishes the list of exit nodes and provides a tool to detect if traffic comes from the Tor network (see [here](https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/4412/why-does-tor-publish-ip-addresses-of-exit-nodes) as to why). Website owners can therefore choose to block some or all Tor users, if they wish.
\*It is possible to configure a VPN over Tor (not Tor Browser) - in which case traffic will appear to have originated from the VPN’s IP address. However, as well as further degrading connection speed, anonymity is also compromised - i.e. it is only as good as the anonymity gained from your VPN provider, which may be nil. You also won’t be able to visit .onion addresses.
If you just need to read websites which block Tor (& not login or otherwise post data) you can archive the webpage & then read the archived page. I do this a lot and although time consuming it does circumvent a Tor block for my ‘read-only’ needs. Try [archive.org](http://archive.org) or [archive.is](https://archive.is/) ([http://archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion/](http://archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion/)). The former is slow & you may need to cycle through a few exit nodes if you are rate-limited. The latter requires you to complete a CAPTCHA.
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### Author:  [@WofWca](https://forum.torproject.org/u/WofWca)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/6 "2024-11-19T12:11:18Z")
> [@qumix](#):
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> I assume it happens since exit node is not encrypted, so sites can easily see my tor traffic.
No, this is not the reason. The reason is that the websites see that request originates from an IP address that is hosting a Tor exit node. The list of Tor exit nodes is public, because Tor clients need to know them.
What you’re probably getting at is “exit bridges”. See these posts:
- [Using hidden services to replace exit nodes - #3 by gus](https://forum.torproject.org/t/using-hidden-services-to-replace-exit-nodes/12336/3)
- [Websites blocking Tor](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor/6095)
- [How to circumvent Stack Exchange blocking Tor users from registering accounts? - #7 by everydayisoks](https://forum.torproject.org/t/how-to-circumvent-stack-exchange-blocking-tor-users-from-registering-accounts/12195/7)
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> [@qumix](#):
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> I don’t want to pay for vpn or vps, I don’t want to pay for my freedom.
You can find VPS’es for ~$2 per month, and share it with friends.
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### Author:  [@qumix](https://forum.torproject.org/u/qumix)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/7 "2024-11-20T10:33:03Z")
Thank you everyone for helping! I appreciate you found time to help me. Now I have better understanding of how it works and can fix my problems with your information
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.torproject.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/websites-blocking-tor-traffic/15874/8 "2024-11-21T10:33:42Z")
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