[tor-relays] Re: Relay forest18 is still not on the consensus

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Hello.

Marco Moock wrote:

So please investigate what is going on, e.g. using traceroute on the
TCP port of the authority.

First investigate the issue.

I have already determined the cause of the issue, as I described in an
earlier message. The connection to several authorities is being dropped
right after it reaches 14.143.30.73.static-delhi.vsnl.net.in, according
to a traceroute (ICMP, TCP, and UDP) of all the affected authorities.

It is unlikely to be an innocent routing issue, as only the authorities
are blocked. For example, moria1 on 128.31.0.39 cannot be routed, but
128.31.0.38, which is on the same /24 on AS3, has no issues.

I am currently waiting for the hosting provider to reply back to me.

Regards,
forest

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It seems they are no longer blocking all of the directory authorities
and forest18 has finally appeared on the consensus. This is despite
them being less than helpful in a support ticket, as they demanded that
I do a KYC check to run a Tor relay in their India location (I'm not
sure if they really understood that it was a non-exit).

Right now, only Serge (66.111.2.131) is blocked. Sadly, this provider
does not support IPv6, so I cannot try to connect to Serge over that.
But either way, enough authorities can now see the relay that it has
been added to the consensus and traffic is slowly ramping up.

Regards,
forest

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No worries about accessing Serge at this point, since forest18 isn't a
bridge.

Serge, however, can nc(1) to your ORPort on forest18.

g

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On 12/19/25 15:32, forest-relay-contact--- via tor-relays wrote:

It seems they are no longer blocking all of the directory authorities
and forest18 has finally appeared on the consensus. This is despite
them being less than helpful in a support ticket, as they demanded that
I do a KYC check to run a Tor relay in their India location (I'm not
sure if they really understood that it was a non-exit).

Right now, only Serge (66.111.2.131) is blocked. Sadly, this provider
does not support IPv6, so I cannot try to connect to Serge over that.
But either way, enough authorities can now see the relay that it has
been added to the consensus and traffic is slowly ramping up.

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Hello,

This is despite them being less than helpful in a support ticket, as they demanded that
I do a KYC check to run a Tor relay in their India location (I’m not
sure if they really understood that it was a non-exit).

Regarding this, I believe there is an Indian Law that requires all hosting providers and domain registrars that are operating in India to perform KYC checks by collecting your passport or ID.

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Hello.

Regarding this, I believe there is an Indian Law that requires all
hosting providers and domain registrars that are operating in India to
perform KYC checks by collecting your passport or ID.

They only said that they needed KYC for running a Tor relay. They were
happy to let me rent a VPS from them anonymously.

They haven't replied to the ticket so I requested that it be closed. It
seems like they just forgot. Considering the IPs are no longer blocked,
I see no reason to keep poking them.

Regards,
forest

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why on earth are you running a relay in a hostile country? never kyc, especially while running tor relay. there are plenty providers (https://kycnot.me) that won’t ask for your ID

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On Tuesday, December 23rd, 2025 at 2:08 AM, John Crow via tor-relays tor-relays@lists.torproject.org wrote:

Hello,

This is despite them being less than helpful in a support ticket, as they demanded that
I do a KYC check to run a Tor relay in their India location (I’m not
sure if they really understood that it was a non-exit).

Regarding this, I believe there is an Indian Law that requires all hosting providers and domain registrars that are operating in India to perform KYC checks by collecting your passport or ID.

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Hello.

why on earth are you running a relay in a hostile country?

Network diversity. I also run relays in Russia, Vietnam, Turkiye, and
Nigeria. None of them are well-known for being particularly friendly to
anonymity, but it's better than yet another NL or DE relay.

never kyc, especially while running tor relay. there are plenty
providers (https://kycnot.me) that won't ask for your ID

Those providers are all over-used and are mostly just Hetzner and OVH
resellers. I have relays with more than 20 different hosts, almost none
of which are on kycnot and all of which took cryptocurrency without KYC.
It's much better to do research and find providers that are not popular
than to use some curated list. I've even taught a few about Tor! :slight_smile:

If anyone is interested, I use iHostART, Maxko Hosting, Advin Servers,
Trabia, Servers Guru, DeluxHost, VeloxMedia, Pfcloud, ServerHost, Aluy,
DartNode, SiteHub, Infofractal, OrangeVPS, Rackoona, JustHost, IncogNET,
C1V Hosting, RackNerd, DataOnline, NoAckHosting, ReadyDedis, and VPS.tc.

Regards,
forest

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i see ur a fellow lowendtalk user! i used some of em, good providers

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On Wednesday, December 24th, 2025 at 4:43 AM, forest-relay-contact--- via tor-relays <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote:

Hello.

> why on earth are you running a relay in a hostile country?

Network diversity. I also run relays in Russia, Vietnam, Turkiye, and
Nigeria. None of them are well-known for being particularly friendly to
anonymity, but it's better than yet another NL or DE relay.

> never kyc, especially while running tor relay. there are plenty
> providers (https://kycnot.me) that won't ask for your ID

Those providers are all over-used and are mostly just Hetzner and OVH
resellers. I have relays with more than 20 different hosts, almost none
of which are on kycnot and all of which took cryptocurrency without KYC.
It's much better to do research and find providers that are not popular
than to use some curated list. I've even taught a few about Tor! :slight_smile:

If anyone is interested, I use iHostART, Maxko Hosting, Advin Servers,
Trabia, Servers Guru, DeluxHost, VeloxMedia, Pfcloud, ServerHost, Aluy,
DartNode, SiteHub, Infofractal, OrangeVPS, Rackoona, JustHost, IncogNET,
C1V Hosting, RackNerd, DataOnline, NoAckHosting, ReadyDedis, and VPS.tc.

Regards,
forest

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Is India hostile to TOR?

yes along with russia/iran and china which everyone knows

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On Wednesday, December 24th, 2025 at 4:38 AM, Marco Moock via tor-relays <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote:

Am 23.12.2025 um 11:12:59 Uhr schrieb tztao via tor-relays:

> why on earth are you running a relay in a hostile country?

Is India hostile to TOR?

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I have relays with more than 20 different hosts

wow thats expensive man, ur the superhero of tor network

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On Wednesday, December 24th, 2025 at 4:43 AM, forest-relay-contact--- via tor-relays <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote:

Hello.

> why on earth are you running a relay in a hostile country?

Network diversity. I also run relays in Russia, Vietnam, Turkiye, and
Nigeria. None of them are well-known for being particularly friendly to
anonymity, but it's better than yet another NL or DE relay.

> never kyc, especially while running tor relay. there are plenty
> providers (https://kycnot.me) that won't ask for your ID

Those providers are all over-used and are mostly just Hetzner and OVH
resellers. I have relays with more than 20 different hosts, almost none
of which are on kycnot and all of which took cryptocurrency without KYC.
It's much better to do research and find providers that are not popular
than to use some curated list. I've even taught a few about Tor! :slight_smile:

If anyone is interested, I use iHostART, Maxko Hosting, Advin Servers,
Trabia, Servers Guru, DeluxHost, VeloxMedia, Pfcloud, ServerHost, Aluy,
DartNode, SiteHub, Infofractal, OrangeVPS, Rackoona, JustHost, IncogNET,
C1V Hosting, RackNerd, DataOnline, NoAckHosting, ReadyDedis, and VPS.tc.

Regards,
forest

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Hello.

tztao wrote:

i see ur a fellow lowendtalk user! i used some of em, good providers

I just read LET but don't participate, sadly. I did spend far too many
hours grabbing flash sales during BF2025, though!

Unless they allow Tor signups (or at least don't block signups from one
of my VPSes), I'll have to remain a lurker, watching the drama and fumos
from the shadows... But yes, many of the providers I use are from there.

wow thats expensive man, ur the superhero of tor network

No, as far as LET is concerned, that title goes to zGato. :wink:

Regards,
forest

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