# Is the experimental version the same as the stable?

**URL:** https://forum.torproject.org/t/is-the-experimental-version-the-same-as-the-stable/12941
**Category:** Relay Operator
**Tags:** tor
**Created:** [May 30, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/is-the-experimental-version-the-same-as-the-stable/12941 "2024-05-30T13:10:00Z")
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### Author: ![capole](https://forum.torproject.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@capole](https://forum.torproject.org/u/capole)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/is-the-experimental-version-the-same-as-the-stable/12941/5 "2024-06-06T23:59:55Z")

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So, I’m not sure what exatly is going on with the experimental version.

Have a look at the [distribution releases](https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/), on [bookworm](https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages) (which has the stable release), you can see the version is 0.4.8.12, which just got released.

The [nightly version](https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/tor-nightly-main-bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages) is 0.4.9.0-alpha-dev, which is expected.

However, if you look closely, the [experimental version](https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/tor-experimental-bookworm/main/binary-amd64/Packages) was last modified one week from now (probably due to some automated process), but the version is 0.4.7.6-rc-1, which [dates back](https://forum.torproject.org/t/release-0-4-7-6-rc/2889) to April 2022.

The reason it still downloaded version 0.4.8.11 even if I added the experimental repository is because it fetches the latest version, which happens to be the stable.

I wonder what happened. Apparently the experimental versions are no longer used, or at least not made publicly available before it becomes the stable release.

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