# Help debugging seemingly unstable relay

**URL:** https://forum.torproject.org/t/help-debugging-seemingly-unstable-relay/16190
**Category:** Relay Operator
**Tags:** tor-browser, webtunnel
**Created:** [December 5, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/help-debugging-seemingly-unstable-relay/16190 "2024-12-05T08:46:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author: ![iliketorrelays](https://forum.torproject.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@iliketorrelays](https://forum.torproject.org/u/iliketorrelays)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/help-debugging-seemingly-unstable-relay/16190/1 "2024-12-05T08:46:44Z")

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In response to the call for webbridges I’m trying to deploy one, I’ve got it up and running and have tested it myself (using the Bridge line in Tor Browser) and confirmed that it works.

This is the bridge: [Relay Search](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/0769034C6C3A974A3E673DEFE2469FD294EC80CB)

My problem is that occasionally when I check the status on [metrics.torpoject.org](http://metrics.torpoject.org) it sometimes shows as offline (I assume this is why I don’t have a stable flag yet). When this happens - nothing shows in the logs and when I test it it works.

And to be clear - right now it says uptime is \> 2 days but I’ve seen it show as offline/red multiple times in the past two days.

So I think some external validator is causing this - but I don’t know what to check, can someone point me in the right direction?

If relevant, I see this in the logs:

```auto
Dec 05 07:24:49 tor Tor[9390]: No circuits are opened. Relaxed timeout for circuit 1734 (a Testing circuit 3-hop circuit in state doing handshakes with channel state open) to 60000ms. However, it appears the circuit has timed out anyway. [11 similar message(s) suppressed in last 7440 seconds]

```

and

```auto
Dec 05 08:44:43 tor2 Tor[9390]: Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 2 days 0:00 hours, with 0 circuits open. I've sent 16.28 MB and received 75.03 MB. I've received 4 connections on IPv4 and 0 on IPv6. I've made 123 connections with IPv4 and 0 with IPv6.

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What should I check next?

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### Author: ![atari](https://forum.torproject.org/user_avatar/forum.torproject.org/atari/32/392_2.png) [@atari](https://forum.torproject.org/u/atari)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/help-debugging-seemingly-unstable-relay/16190/2 "2024-12-05T08:58:12Z")

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Your bridge is functional: [https://bridges.torproject.org/status?id=0769034C6C3A974A3E673DEFE2469FD294EC80CB](https://bridges.torproject.org/status?id=0769034C6C3A974A3E673DEFE2469FD294EC80CB)

metrics will always flicker for now, if you do not expose your ORPort, which is recommended.

> [@PSA: WebTunnel bridge on Debian 12 the "easy" way](https://forum.torproject.org/t/psa-webtunnel-bridge-on-debian-12-the-easy-way/16129/14):
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> webtunnel will always report as non running, if you decide not to have a public ORPort. but it should not matter: [can we distribute bridges with unrechable ORPort? (#154) · Issues · The Tor Project / Anti-censorship / rdsys · GitLab](https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/rdsys/-/issues/154) Update: @meskio said on IRC something was broken with [https://bridges.torproject.org/status?id=$hashed\_fingerprint](https://bridges.torproject.org/status?id=$hashed_fingerprint) since yesterday - bridgestrap ↔ rdsys related… backlog should be done in about an hour

additionally in the past 2 days something was broken and debugging on your site was not helpful at all…

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### Author: ![iliketorrelays](https://forum.torproject.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@iliketorrelays](https://forum.torproject.org/u/iliketorrelays)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/help-debugging-seemingly-unstable-relay/16190/3 "2024-12-05T09:11:44Z")

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Thanks!

So basically don’t worry about it occasionally showing as offline, just be patient for usage to pick up over time?
