# Mailing Lists

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## [\[tor-relays\] Should I switch my guards to exits?](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-should-i-switch-my-guards-to-exits/22116)

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**Author:** [@lists](https://forum.torproject.org/u/lists)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-should-i-switch-my-guards-to-exits/22116 "2026-09-16T19:15:02Z")

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Background: At the time, our AS was generating ~25% of the exit traffic. I then configured one server with 40 exit relays and another with 40 guard relays. We are now only generating ~16%. It’s actually a real shame…

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## [\[tor-project\] minutes from the sysadmins](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-minutes-from-the-sysadmins/22138)

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**Author:** [@anarcat](https://forum.torproject.org/u/anarcat)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2026, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-minutes-from-the-sysadmins/22138 "2026-09-15T15:39:07Z")

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Hey everyone, we had a meeting yesterday, and here are our minutes. # Roll call: who's there and emergencies - anarcat - groente - jerome - lelutin - zen-fu # Express check-in - how are you doing? - blocked on a…

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## [\[tor-dev\] Introducing Stade: Mobile P2P messaging using embedded Tor v3 Onion Services and PQC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-dev-introducing-stade-mobile-p2p-messaging-using-embedded-tor-v3-onion-services-and-pqc/22134)

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**Author:** [@Eren](https://forum.torproject.org/u/Eren)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2026, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-dev-introducing-stade-mobile-p2p-messaging-using-embedded-tor-v3-onion-services-and-pqc/22134 "2026-09-14T13:06:22Z")

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Hi tor-dev team, We are developing an open-source, serverless mobile messaging application called Stade. Our primary architectural goal is achieving zero metadata exposure without relying on centralized coordination se…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Re: DDoS solution for Tor nodes - nftables variant implemented](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-re-ddos-solution-for-tor-nodes-nftables-variant-implemented/22121)

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**Author:** [@lists](https://forum.torproject.org/u/lists)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 13, 2026, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-re-ddos-solution-for-tor-nodes-nftables-variant-implemented/22121 "2026-09-13T19:04:21Z")

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Yay, I've been wondering for years why you aren't using nftables. :wink: 2 hints: - Use \`auto-merge\` and \`interval\` flag in dynamic sets. - Block crazy packets like this in line 172, in chain 'ingress' before conntra…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Re: DDoS solution for Tor nodes - nftables variant implemented](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-re-ddos-solution-for-tor-nodes-nftables-variant-implemented/22119)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://forum.torproject.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 13, 2026, 9:22am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-re-ddos-solution-for-tor-nodes-nftables-variant-implemented/22119 "2026-09-13T09:22:02Z")

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Hello. I eventually managed to have it \[1\] for nftables too and will continue to maintain both variants. I wrote an nftables port as well, with some adjustments. It relies on populating an nftables set with the lis…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Complete list of Tor Metrics keys](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-complete-list-of-tor-metrics-keys/22112)

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**Author:** [@forest](https://forum.torproject.org/u/forest)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2026, 5:33am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-complete-list-of-tor-metrics-keys/22112 "2026-09-12T05:33:40Z")

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Hello. In order to analyze the ongoing DDoS attack, I'm collecting metrics data need a "dictionary" containing a typical metrics output in order to get a better compression ratio. The best I have comes from: curl -…

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## [\[tor-dev\] Upcoming C-tor security release - 0.4.9.12](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-dev-upcoming-c-tor-security-release-0-4-9-12/22075)

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**Author:** [@dgoulet](https://forum.torproject.org/u/dgoulet)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-dev-upcoming-c-tor-security-release-0-4-9-12/22075 "2026-09-10T21:09:20Z")

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Greetings everyone! Next Tuesday, September 8th, we will do a C-tor release (0.4.9.12) containing fixes for a set of high severity issues. And then, as a heads up, C-tor will likely enter a release cadence every 2-3 …

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## [\[tor-project\] User Support Report for August 2026](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-user-support-report-for-august-2026/22105)

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**Author:** [@ebanam](https://forum.torproject.org/u/ebanam)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 9, 2026, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-user-support-report-for-august-2026/22105 "2026-09-09T18:16:23Z")

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Hello everyone, This is the report from the user support team for the month of August 2026. One correction in the last month's \[report\]\[\]. I had accidentally mentioned: 7. 7(↑) tickets: instructions to use GetTor. \[…

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## [\[tor-project\] Retiring unsupported Debian and Ubuntu container images](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-retiring-unsupported-debian-and-ubuntu-container-images/22078)

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**Author:** [@lavamind](https://forum.torproject.org/u/lavamind)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-retiring-unsupported-debian-and-ubuntu-container-images/22078 "2026-09-03T15:23:08Z")

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Hi folks, Conformant to TPA policy about container image lifecycle \[0\], we have retired the following container images hosted in the tpo/tpa/base-images project, due to the end of upstream support: - Debian 'bullseye' …

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## [\[tor-project\] New scoped labels available in GitLab](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-new-scoped-labels-available-in-gitlab/22076)

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**Author:** [@donuts](https://forum.torproject.org/u/donuts)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-new-scoped-labels-available-in-gitlab/22076 "2026-09-03T14:45:50Z")

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Hi everyone, As part of the GitLab Ultimate Rollout¹, the team have gradually been deploying scoped labels across our GitLab instance (credit to the GitLab Ultimate Task Force for their ongoing work here). This work is …

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## [\[tor-relays\] PSA: 0.4.8.x is EOL now, please upgrade!](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-psa-0-4-8-x-is-eol-now-please-upgrade/21676)

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**Author:** [@GeKo](https://forum.torproject.org/u/GeKo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2026, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-psa-0-4-8-x-is-eol-now-please-upgrade/21676 "2026-09-02T09:14:49Z")

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Hello! As a reminder for those of you still running any 0.4.8.x Tor version (be it as a relay or a bridge): please upgrade! The 0.4.8.x series is end-of-life since 2 days ago and you should see a respective warning in y…

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## [\[tor-dev\] Re: Timeline and considerations of JPEG XL support in Tor Browser Bundle](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-dev-re-timeline-and-considerations-of-jpeg-xl-support-in-tor-browser-bundle/22057)

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**Author:** [@PieroV](https://forum.torproject.org/u/PieroV)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2026, 8:28am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-dev-re-timeline-and-considerations-of-jpeg-xl-support-in-tor-browser-bundle/22057 "2026-08-31T08:28:37Z")

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Hello, Tor Browser alpha has JPEG XL support behind the same pref as Firefox, but we won't enable it by default before Firefox for sure. At the time of writing, image.jxl.enabled is still true by default only in Firefox…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Snowflake setup fail](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-snowflake-setup-fail/22023)

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**Author:** [@John\_Thompson](https://forum.torproject.org/u/John_Thompson)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [August 29, 2026, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-snowflake-setup-fail/22023 "2026-08-29T01:41:02Z")

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Repeated blacklisting while running a tor relay has persuaded me to try a snowflake proxy instead. I want to run a stand-alone proxy on Almalinux-9.8. Following the instructions on Tor Project | Docker setup, I have inst…

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## [\[tor-project\] Anti-censorship team meeting notes, 2026-08-27](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-27/22044)

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**Author:** [@meskio](https://forum.torproject.org/u/meskio)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 27, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-27/22044 "2026-08-27T16:46:46Z")

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Hey everyone! Here are our meeting logs: And our meeting pad: Anti-censorship ▶ ···

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## [\[tor-relays\] False-positive abuse reports from XMission's exit relay made against other relays](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-false-positive-abuse-reports-from-xmissions-exit-relay-made-against-other-relays/22034)

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**Author:** [@forest-relay-contact](https://forum.torproject.org/u/forest-relay-contact)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 26, 2026, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-false-positive-abuse-reports-from-xmissions-exit-relay-made-against-other-relays/22034 "2026-08-26T01:58:40Z")

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Hello. An ISP in Utah, XMission, runs their own Tor exit under the fingerprint E3DB2E354B883B59E8DC56B3E7A353DDFD457812. Their exit has been running for 14 whole years! But in the last few years, they appear to have …

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## [\[tor-project\] Duplicate tor browser icons on Debian 13 / GNOME 48](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-duplicate-tor-browser-icons-on-debian-13-gnome-48/22027)

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**Author:** [@fa1](https://forum.torproject.org/u/fa1)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 25, 2026, 8:29am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-duplicate-tor-browser-icons-on-debian-13-gnome-48/22027 "2026-08-25T08:29:16Z")

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Hello, Thank you very much for developing Throne. I really appreciate your work on the client. I have a small issue/question. After installing tor browser, two separate Throne icons appear in the GNOME application menu…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Why is my MTBF so low?](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-why-is-my-mtbf-so-low/22028)

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**Author:** [@tor.kmv82](https://forum.torproject.org/u/tor.kmv82)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 24, 2026, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-why-is-my-mtbf-so-low/22028 "2026-08-24T18:30:01Z")

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Hello, my relay (pizzasauce — Tor Relay in Germany (AS51167) | 1AEO Tor Metrics) currently has a stable uptime of 16 days. However, all directory authoritys, except moria and longclaw show a MTBF of 0.6 days-1 days. So…

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## [\[tor-project\] Anti-censorship team meeting notes, 2026-08-20](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-20/22012)

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**Author:** [@Shelikhoo](https://forum.torproject.org/u/Shelikhoo)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2026, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-20/22012 "2026-08-20T17:27:35Z")

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Hey everyone! Here are our meeting logs: And our meeting pad: Anti-censorship work meeting pad ▶ ···

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## [\[tor-project\] Re: "Napping Guard" (2020)—was it reported to Tor?](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-re-napping-guard-2020-was-it-reported-to-tor/22003)

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**Author:** [@GeKo](https://forum.torproject.org/u/GeKo)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 18, 2026, 7:51am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-re-napping-guard-2020-was-it-reported-to-tor/22003 "2026-08-18T07:51:07Z")

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David Fifield via tor-project: I was looking at this 2020 research paper: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9343014/ Sci-Hub: are you are robot? "Napping Guard: Deanonymizing Tor Hidden Service in a Stealthy Way" …

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## [\[tor-project\] Anti-censorship team meeting notes, 2026-08-13](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-13/21985)

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**Author:** [@onyinyang](https://forum.torproject.org/u/onyinyang)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 13, 2026, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-13/21985 "2026-08-13T16:20:48Z")

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Hey everyone! Here are our meeting logs: https://meetbot.debian.net/tor-meeting/2026/tor-meeting.2026-08-13-16.01.htmlMinutes (text): https://meetbot.debian.net/tor-meeting/2026/tor-meeting.2026-08-13-16.01.txt And ou…

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## [\[tor-relays\] OT: How much Internet traffic overall is from Tor?](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-ot-how-much-internet-traffic-overall-is-from-tor/21964)

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**Author:** [@Lars\_Nooden](https://forum.torproject.org/u/Lars_Nooden)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-ot-how-much-internet-traffic-overall-is-from-tor/21964 "2026-08-07T18:23:22Z")

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Greetings, Are there any recent data estimating the percentage (or absolute volume) of Internet traffic which is from Tor? I suppose these metrics have been covered at some conferences now and again, but I cannot find …

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## [\[tor-relays\] Tor activities at Defcon](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-tor-activities-at-defcon/21961)

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**Author:** [@arma](https://forum.torproject.org/u/arma)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-tor-activities-at-defcon/21961 "2026-08-06T19:50:57Z")

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Hi folks! Many Tor people are here at Defcon this weekend. You can find us at: (1) Our booth, in the non-profit vendor area near EFF and others. People will be there Friday Saturday Sunday during daytime hours. Check o…

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## [\[tor-project\] User Support Report for July 2026](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-user-support-report-for-july-2026/21960)

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**Author:** [@ebanam](https://forum.torproject.org/u/ebanam)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-user-support-report-for-july-2026/21960 "2026-08-06T19:28:45Z")

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Hello everyone, This is the report from the user support team for the month of July 2026. Note: (↑), (↓) and (-) are indicating if the number of tickets we received for these topics have been increasing, decreasing or …

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## [\[tor-project\] Anti-censorship team meeting notes, 2026-08-06](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-06/21959)

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**Author:** [@Shelikhoo](https://forum.torproject.org/u/Shelikhoo)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-anti-censorship-team-meeting-notes-2026-08-06/21959 "2026-08-06T16:58:20Z")

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Hey everyone! Here are our meeting logs: And our meeting pad: Anti-censorship work meeting pad ▶ ···

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## [\[tor-relays\] Post-Quantum Cryptography in Tor's TLS Layer: Help needed!](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-post-quantum-cryptography-in-tors-tls-layer-help-needed/21288)

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**Author:** [@ahf](https://forum.torproject.org/u/ahf)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-post-quantum-cryptography-in-tors-tls-layer-help-needed/21288 "2026-08-06T14:56:37Z")

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Hello Tor Relay Operators, With the arrival of OpenSSL 3.5.0 in 2025, we finally had an important missing piece of infrastructure to start enabling the Tor network to support Post-Quantum Cryptography in the outermost c…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Re: for tiny tor instances: 3 Tor config values worth to try out](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-re-for-tiny-tor-instances-3-tor-config-values-worth-to-try-out/21952)

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**Author:** [@ahf](https://forum.torproject.org/u/ahf)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2026, 11:32am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-re-for-tiny-tor-instances-3-tor-config-values-worth-to-try-out/21952 "2026-08-05T11:32:29Z")

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Toralf, I have to give you a shout-out for all the community work you always put in, with helpful advice on both this list and #tor-relays on IRC/Matrix. You're often the first to report legit bugs to us on the Network …

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## [\[tor-project\] minutes from the sysadmin](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-minutes-from-the-sysadmin/21948)

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**Author:** [@anarcat](https://forum.torproject.org/u/anarcat)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2026, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-minutes-from-the-sysadmin/21948 "2026-08-04T21:37:38Z")

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\# Roll call: who's there and emergencies We have a few outstanding issues we're keeping an eye on: - gitlab artifacts partition filling up by lelutin - gitlab CI issues monitored by lavamind - jenkins runners migrati…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Tor Relay Crash](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-tor-relay-crash/21934)

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**Author:** [@Lavender\_I\_Tor\_Relay](https://forum.torproject.org/u/Lavender_I_Tor_Relay)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2026, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-tor-relay-crash/21934 "2026-08-04T01:17:50Z")

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Hello, I've been tearing my hair out a bit lately. I launched a Tor middle relay a few weeks ago, but every so often, I get a dramatic spike in upload traffic, and the relay becomes almost unusable—or even crashes... I …

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## [\[tor-project\] User Support Report for June 2026](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-user-support-report-for-june-2026/21941)

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**Author:** [@ebanam](https://forum.torproject.org/u/ebanam)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 3, 2026, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-project-user-support-report-for-june-2026/21941 "2026-08-03T18:32:21Z")

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Hello everyone, This is the report from user support team for the month of June 2026. Note: (↑), (↓) and (-) are indicating if the number of tickets we received for these topics have been increasing, decreasing or have…

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## [\[tor-relays\] Heads up: anti-censorship tools now packaged on deb.torproject.org](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-heads-up-anti-censorship-tools-now-packaged-on-deb-torproject-org/21930)

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**Author:** [@Micah\_Anderson](https://forum.torproject.org/u/Micah_Anderson)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2026, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-heads-up-anti-censorship-tools-now-packaged-on-deb-torproject-org/21930 "2026-08-01T11:49:43Z")

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Greetings, We're currently preparing 4 new Debian packages to be included in the Tor Project Debian repository hosted at "deb.torproject.org" in the coming days: \* lyrebird \* webtunnel \* snowflake-proxy …

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